WWF In Warmbloods And Forced To Reveal In Germany

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  1. LoveTrail

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    Ain't Judy Yancey a pip?

    She is an incredible lady. Good for her.
     
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    No biggie on the initials, knew what you were talking about. Good. Needed to be done. Responsible, it's a good thing.
     
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    Colour me not surprised that Schockemöhle did not want to reveal the status until he had to..
     
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    A couple of the US registries are starting to require it.
     
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    Pardon me if this sounds like some massively stupid questions. But what will happen the stallions who tested positive?
    - will they be gelded or will there be more scrutiny on who they are bred to?
     
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    You can still use them on negative mares with a guarnatee for a healthy foal, that again has a 50% chance of being a carrier. So you can use a very valuable positive stallion with negative mares and vice versa, for a sport horse it's irrelevant if it's a carrier.

    I hope the reduced marketability for positive foals and young horses will help decrease the amount of positive horses in the population.
     
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    It is pretty much the same question as frame in Qharter Horses. It comes down to the question if it is right to breed horses with genetic defects.
     
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    Those stallions should not be bred to mares that also carry the trait.

    And clearly, some mare owners will not breed to those stallions at all, which is probably a better choice(depending on how the disorder is inherited, there may be more yet to find out on that) for eliminating the trait from the gene pool entirely.

    That's very painful economically, but it is faster at eliminating the gene pattern than allowing carrier stallions to breed to non-carrier mares.

    In general, breeding organizations don't make breeders neuter breeding animals that carry one copy of a trait that needs two copies for the trait to show itself. They generally will just have all breeding animals tested and breeders won't breed a carrier to a carrier.
     
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    No. Hypp causes symptoms for all horses carrying the gene. A one copy carrier of this gene is always healthy.

    Plus, apparently now the test results for a ton of stallions are coming in, breeders found that in some cases carrier mares just didn't get pregnant using a carrier stallion and when switching to a non carrier stallion immediately worked. So this gene in the two copy variety is so dysfunctional that an in a lot of cases an embryo doesn't even develop.
     

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