I bought a used antares monoflap saddle from a girl on Facebook. Part of it was supposed to be a Christmas present from my mom. I sent the money and it cleared on my end within 3 business days. That was 2 weeks ago. They don't want to ship the saddle until the payment clears which is understandable. PayPal is holding the payment until they provide shipping info. They wanted me to "confirm receipt" the payment so that it will transfer to them in 3 days. If I do that I waive my protection and claim that I have received the saddle, it is in as described condition, and waive the right to file a claim. I explained that to them and said that there was no way that I was doing that. I contacted PayPal and they said that the payment is being held as part of my payment protection until they ship. Now they want to send a "trial package" where they would tell PayPal that they are shipping my saddle and give the tracking info so that the payment will clear. Then they'll ship the saddle later. That sounds so sketchy. I told them no, and that they could get in big trouble with PayPal for that. I sent them a screenshot of my PayPal statement that shows quite clearly that my payment transferred from my bank account to PayPal and then from PayPal to her. I also told them that I could send them a bank statement to further prove that my money had been sent. So now the actual owner of the saddle is going to call me tomorrow and hopefully they will finally ship after that. If not then I am done with this whole thing. I would rather get my money back and save a little bit more for a saddle from a reputable consignment shop which allows a trial. Update I spoke with the owner of the saddle today and she apparently was not told any part of what was going on. So I explained that I gave her friend proof that my money has been transferred. I also told her that I contacted PayPal directly and they said that the payment is being held until shipment info is received. So she said that she would tell her friend to get the saddle shipped. I confirmed with the friend that I bought the saddle from and she said that she will ship it now. So I guess I will see if it actually comes, or if I need to file a PayPal claim.