Why a rescue is not always a rescue....Kill pen buyers

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  1. mooselady

    mooselady Senior Member

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    This I found well written and compelling, I guess mainly because it confirms what I have believed for a long time...There are many people out there making money out of well meaning but gullible people, and the same number of horses get shipped.

    The Truth About Kill Pens - Are You REALLY Saving a Life?
     
  2. Faster Horses

    Faster Horses Senior Member

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    The only time I bought at an auction, I was afraid the horse would no sale and end back up at the owners to finish starving to death.

    After the auction fees, coggins, and trailering fees, I know the former owner lost money, because the $25 I paid didn't cover all of that.

    So, that gives me satisfaction some days. Then again, we don't have any KBs attending that auction.
     
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  3. manesntails

    manesntails Senior Member

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    That's 100% accurate.
    Have I not been saying this same thing on this board for years and gotten sh~:poop: for it from every member touting their new “Rescue“ horse?

    Maybe they'll listen to her.
     
  4. all4him

    all4him Senior Member

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    My friend got very into rescue when she was trying to find a horse that was sold illegally. She's still looking for that mare, by the way. But she spent THOUSANDS buying horses from kill buyers and sending them to rescues but then realized exactly what this article states. Now she has a network of men and women around the country who are looking to get the horses before they go to auction or at auction - BEFORE the kill buyers think of getting them. She's been able to do some good work for some special horses. She now knows that she can't save them all and at times has had to walk away from a horse but those she has helped to save are grateful.
     
  5. palogal

    palogal Senior Member

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    The "Kill Pen" is a horse trader. Period. They hide under the name "Kill Pen" to make people feel bad and pull on the heartstrings. The horses they advertise are not going to slaughter unless they really need to fill a load. The horses that are slaughter bound are never advertised. Those horses are generally broncy, lame, sick and fat or any combination there of. The pen in Kaufman won't even advertise mustangs anymore because all of the junior detectives and issues with people who don't understand the BLM or the process of ownership. They still buy them, cheap. Mustangs are pretty useless. They just direct ship them. The ones that don't sell are usually just run through another auction.

    So, no. You're not saving anything. You are buying a horse with no shots, unknown history, really - the pen only knows what they are told, and who knows what other diseases picked up through the auction or in the pen itself. The Kill Pen business is brilliant. Seriously. Not that I'd do it, my integrity is worth more than that, but it's a brilliant concept.

    And let's face it, even with the mark up in the kill pen they are much cheaper than a rescue that wants to charge 1000 dollars to "adopt" and not give you ownership. Rescue is a crock as well IMO. You roll the dice with a KP horse but at least you own it.
     
  6. mooselady

    mooselady Senior Member

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    Probably not, this is a great scam, makes the buyer feel good, and of course the seller feels great. Then you wonder about the fund raising going on, people raising money to ship their poor 'rescue' clear across the country.

    Thing is, bottom line, there are only so many homes, once those spaces are filled, then the excess gets shipped.....every 'rescue' means another one needs rescuing
     
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  7. Zimalia

    Zimalia Senior Member

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    The ones making money are the so called "rescues". They get a few horses, then stand there with their hands out begging for money to buy feed. I've seen so many "rescues" that horses needed rescued FROM!
    Canner buyers are horses traders. They get a good deal on a good horse, they buy it. It's not going to the plant, they will resell it. They are not the ones hiding behind a name, that's the "rescues".
     
  8. palogal

    palogal Senior Member

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    Truth.
     
  9. equinitis

    equinitis Senior Member

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    Traders are not the ones that named kill buyers or kill pens. That was the animal rights movement and/or rescue people tugging on heart strings to make money. I worked for a trader when I was a teen. Rode everything he brought home and let him know what the training was, what bad habits they had, etc. This enabled him to market the animals to the right people and make a little money at it. He never brought an animal to me that was crippled, sick, or not at least started under saddle. Those went straight to the plant. I rode what he brought for at least a week then he hauled them to the next sale and brought some more for me to ride. Sometimes, if they needed a little weight or had an injury that detracted from their looks or just needed a little TLC to look and act their best, they would stay for 2 weeks or even longer if they were going to pay for the feed when sold. He fed well, vetted when needed although he did most of that himself. (That is where I learned to give shots, stitch wounds, apply medication and de-worm them. I also learned how to use a twitch and a flying W.) He did not like to keep them longer than two weeks because those almost always had to have new coggins before going to the next sale. The more money he invested, the more he had to get to make any money. He was a nice guy and an outstanding horseman. He used me to ride horses in the ring at the local sale, he was smart. Long legged, blond teenage girl spinning a shinny, well groomed and healthy horse around in the ring added at least $200 to the sale price! He always knew how much they were going to bring when he re-sold them so he knew just how much he could invest and still make money. I never saw him lose money at a sale but he did regularly lose money in private sales. He was a softy for a kid that needed a horse and would sell at a loss to a 4-H kid for sure.

    Horse traders are necessary to keep the equine industry healthy. They move more equines in a month than most professional breeders, trainers or exhibitors do in 6 months or a year. Most are exceptional judges of horseflesh and many have a long list of equines being sought for specific clients that have specific requirements. I am perfectly aware there are bad ones out there, aren't there bad apples in every facet of life? I think the good ones far outnumber the bad ones though and I just can't say that about rescues.
     
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  10. slc

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    Spinning a shinny?

    What's that mean?
     

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