What could that be?

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  1. gina1960

    gina1960 Full Member

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    he has itching and does not scratch very hard. I can see itching when I brush it with the brush, he is very wild on it. The worst thing in the ears is always holding your head down. For mites he would have to scratch heavily, says the veterinarian. but every horse is different, mine only wants to eat when it graces, nervous eating as a calming. it is just a little complicated to understand I know, do not understand it myself ..
    in the picture you can see how it looks on the head where he occasionally scratched
     

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    ginster Senior Member

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    Could this be an unrelated issue?
    Like eczema?
     
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    Baboo Senior Member

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    I may have missed this in the posts, but have you consulted a specialist - dermatologist? Sometimes 'regular' vets, despite being excellent at diagnosing and treating normal illnesses, don't have the experience for weird stuff. They just don't see it often enough in their practice. Not the same situation, but my brother had a dog with skin eruptions all over the place, and was seen/treated by vets for months without resolution, and my brother finally insisted on a referral to a dermatologist. That vet took one look and said the dog had a thyroid issue. Her lab numbers were just a hair out of the normal range, but they treated it, and the lesions disappeared. Not something any of the other vets even considered, and in fact pooh-poohed the idea until they saw the results.
     
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    manesntails Senior Member

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    I still say he has warbles. They take a while to all hatch and if he is still exposed to them, be will get more. Mild itching is normal with all creatures. Holes , two next to each other is warbles.
    The sweaty ear in the bridled picture, you can't see anything but sweaty hair.
     
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  5. paval

    paval Senior Member

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    Did the vet not see the breathing holes when he was out to examine your horse? If they weren't there and developed later, I would have the vet re-check... or maybe time for a different vet anyway??
     
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    it looked like this today ... these strokes on the stomach are not normal ... it was a bit of a walk, with us it is cool and my horse ticked completely after about 30 minutes. was no more to calm down, shake his head and just wanted to roll. Veterinarian says I should get Quest Plus tomorrow, if not Dectomax for a long time.
     

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    is there any chance that things will get better again?
     
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    LoveTrail Senior Member

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    He looks bloated in that first photo. Do you have a full body photo to see if maybe he is bloated?
     
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  9. paval

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    Sounds like bot fly (also called warble fly) infestation ... ulcerations in and around mouth can be one of the symptoms.

    So not to sound like I was educated on this subject, I admit I have been reading after being curious about the linear lesions you posted pictures. More and more just fit the description of warbles (as Manes first suspected)... from bot fly infestation and migration.

    If your vet has not done a fecal microscopic fecal exam, I would take a fresh fecal specimen to him and request he look for bot fly larvae. If he can visually see larvae in the feces, the horse has been infected for months is what I read.

    Do you remember ever seeing any of the yellow/orange colored bot eggs on your horse this year or last year??

    Keep a close watch on your horse for any signs of swelling in the stomach area. If the bot larvae migrate and attach to the stomach lining or intestine, they can cause irritation or inflammation. I would definitely mention the swelling to your vet. Hopefully the previous doses of Ivermectin and Quest have already diminished the number of larvae... just speculating of course that it is bot fly larvae. I don't claim to be a vet.

    So actually sounds like you vet may have suspected this since he/she went with the wormer treatments. I would ask him if he suspected bot fly/warble parasitic infestation.
     
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    paval Senior Member

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    Gina, if I may ask... and feel free to decline answering.... which country do you reside? I know access to veterinary medicine and practices varies sometimes on where one lives.
     
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