Ulcers :/

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  1. jazzyjumper

    jazzyjumper Senior Member

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    well jazz has had ulcers for a while and he was in a trial thing with our vet for ulcerguard. we got a 16 day supply of the stuff for free and it seemed to be working veryyyyy well! so after the trial ran out we got some U-Guard which is supposed to heal and soothe ulcers. jazz had gained some weight that he previously lost because of his tummy aches. but anyways, my BO had to worm him, which we knew would upset his tummy. she gave him half a dose of strongid this past week and already hes lost weight!!!
    its awful! he just looks pitiful. poor baby. im hoping he will gain it back after the flare up from the wormer goes away. we are also going to start him on beet pulp again to help him gain weight. does anyone have any other suggestions? if we absolutely have to buy the ulcerguard ($40 a tube!!!) then we will, but if there is any other ways that wont drain our wallet, being my family, so fast then i would love to hear them!
     






  2. Top Dun

    Top Dun Senior Member+

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    There are other alternatives that are less expensive by may work just a well.

    Gastro Gel paste is a two dose per Tube paste and comes in a two pack ( ie 4 doses) for 14.95 from smartpak equine.
    http://www.smartpakequine.com/ProductClass.aspx?productclassid=3278&cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Shopping%20Feed-_-NA-_-13278
    Note it says it's out of stock at smartpak, but Smith brothers also has it at the same price.

    http://www.smithbrothers.com/product.asp?splid=X38001C&pn=T9-22758&cn=1046&bhcd2=1205707037

    And for the record I've used it here on one of my horses and it does seem to work and help him.
     
  3. speedyscout

    speedyscout Senior Member+

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    poor jazz :[
    next time you go to Mcdonalds, just compare the prices and read about all the products.

    hope he gets better!
     
  4. tbtrainer

    tbtrainer Senior Member+

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    I use U7 and have had good results with it...we bought a horse that had terrible ulcers, and first put him on Gastro Guard....I lost him for 6 months (he was a racehorse and was claimed from me)... when I got him back, the ulcers were also back... started him on U7 right away... his apetite and weight picked right back up, manure looked normal within a few days.

    U7 is about $60 for a gallon... you give 30cc a day, so it will last about 1 month per horse. All of my horses love the taste, I usually give it with a dose syrynge, but will also top dress their feed with it.

    You should be giving your horse a Probiotic along with the wormer if his tummy bothers him that much after worming that it knocks him off his feed.
     
  5. PeggySue

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    also what is his diet like??

    what kind of hay how much in lbs and what type of feed is he on??
     
  6. CrazyHorse

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    Yes, absolutely! I had a OTTB who came to me emaciated and wormy. I dewormed him for tape worms and gave him a probiotic with his feed and continued to do so with his regular dewormings and he did beautifully, gained weight & looked like a different horse.
     
  7. jazzyjumper

    jazzyjumper Senior Member

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    what is a probiotic and where can i get it?
    his diet consists of 1 1/2 scoops of grain in the morning and a couple flakes of hay at night. the flakes are from regular square bales. im rlly not sure of the pounds... he WAS on alfalfa/timothy mix hay but we have just gotten a new kind. i will find out next time i go out. :/ sryyy. but in the next few days he will be put on beet pulp, and he loves that stuff!
     
  8. CrazyHorse

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    You should be able to get it from your feed supplier, but if not, I believe you can get it from Smartpak, Country Supply, Valley Vet, Jeffers Equine to name a few...
    I've only given it to one horse, the OTTB I mentioned because of the condition he was in when I got him. It's usually given after deworming, feed changes, stressful situations, etc...
     
  9. PeggySue

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    what type of "grain" sweet feed or something else??

    What size of scoop??
     
  10. Dawn

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    If you're having ulcer issues, then grain needs to be out the door, period. All major ulcer causing issues need to be done away with. Otherwise, no matter how much medicine you pour in, they'll just keep coming back.

    The dewormer really shouldn't have caused an issue like you're seeing in all honesty. And a 1/2 dose of dewormer is not a great idea as the vast majority of the time, you end up killing nothing.

    It could be that he's overdue on deworming, and is presently carrying a large parasite load. And that's why you're seeing a weight loss.
     






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