Well I had a new farrier out that actually showed up :eek2: yay! lol (i'll get pics of their hooves tomorrow for you all to critique). Anyway in short, my farrier told me my 2 yr old was pretty worthless and to not put much money in him .. He said he is nice from the knees up!! haha He did not say this in a mean way though of course just educating me. So basically he said his shoulder is very steep and his pastern angle matches his shoulder angle, so is steep aswell. So he is landing almost toe first, less heel. He said he will never have a flowing gait with heel first landing because of this :no:. He said he could make them 'look pretty' for a show but functionally they will be the same. Also he said the 'white line disease' is NOT WLD and whoever told me that was WRONG. He showed me the white line is perfect and nothing wrong with that. Just the outside of the hoof integrity is poor. He suggested Biotin, which I agree with. We moved the trimming to 6 weeks instead of 8. He also said he has lots of flaring on the outside of his hooves. Something about there is pressure on the inside, so it's pushing the outside capsule out?? or something, I forget. But he said he could trim at it some and work on it but chances are it will probably always be an issue. When he first looked at him, he said 'wow he's almost got like club feet, a level 2' or something ... (i forget a lot!!). Anyway PLEASE tell me about upright pasterns and club feet, mainly the upright pastern thing. Anyway have a nice horse with bad pasterns? I was hoping to do some lower level eventing with him but now I'm not so sure . I really don't want to harm him at all and I know time will tell. I see him run and play in the pasture and he has a very short stride but like LOTS of suspension. Almost like he is piaffing at times when he is excited. So I will get pictures and conformation shots for you all tomorrow but anyone have experience????