It's OK @Alsosusieq2 .. I agree with you. I don't put up with that crap either. Charlie did the gate sour thing to me 3x last year when I was starting him. The first time, I babied him and petted him and was all "nicey, nice." As soon as he went away from the gate, I got off and rewarded him and ended the session. Same with time 2 .... The third time, not so much... I was easy on him the first 2x bc he was a baby and didn't know better... but after the 3rd time (and worst time), I'd had enough. The third time was the very worst and he had started to seriously threaten to rear in his gate sour tantrum. I did exactly what you just described. I got after him with my split reins and I MADE his ass go away from the gate. He expressed his displeasure with me for about 60 seconds. After that, guess what? He rode off, we had a good session and he NEVER did it again. Sorry, but "nicey nice" only works on some horses and some things and sometimes. Why would I have kept doing it that way when he was literally getting worse each time? After I got after him, he rode like a rock star and I never had any issues with it ever again. It's just things you deal with when you're training a horse. None of them are perfect. They all have some kind of issue at some point in their lives. If I wouldn't have gotten after him, he probably would have ended up being a nightmare barn/gate sour horse.