Santa Anita

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  1. GotaDunQH

    GotaDunQH Senior Member

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    And wanted to add....boy this is fodder for the militant PETA types, and other loonies which will demand ALL horses not be ridden.....whether they are race horses, trail horses, show horses etc.
     
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  2. Amarea

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    Here’s an interesting chart I found that someone made regarding the horses that have died there recently
     

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    GotaDunQH Senior Member

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    Hmmmmm.....good work for whoever did this. So, in looking at trainers, it's broadcast amongst the trainers...not one trainer stands out as having numerous. Only 5 happened on the Turf, ALL the rest happened on the track. The last race was a range between recently, after a layoff (maybe inbetween meets), and only a couple unraced. It would be interesting to also see the bloodlines for the "bad conformation passed on" aspect. Gives me some research to do this weekend!!
     
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  4. Amarea

    Amarea Senior Member

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    Just in what I’ve been looking at, it appears Princess Lili B had Native and Northern Dancer on both sides. Northern is on there at least 4x. There’s an interesting article about the breakdown of Eight Belles back in 2009 that discusses certain crosses that have been known to have ankle issues.
     
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    GotaDunQH Senior Member

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    The Stormcat's and Unbridled's are also known to have bad front wheels. If you don't outcross on something with better bone, and just keep breeding bad bone with bad bone.....ugh, it's a set up for disaster.
     
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    Yep. They didn't call them glass legs for no good reason.
     
  7. Copper17

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    Apparently this move is ticking some trainers off. I agree.

    This move is a dirt move to divert away from the fatalities. A lot of racetracks use drugs but you don't see a mass amount of break downs like Santa Anita has had in such a short span.
     
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  8. foxtrot

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    Sorry but I have no idea why people are talking about weak lines in racehorses. I've been following racing for nearly 30 years, yes, horses break down sometimes, yes, many horses are not bred for soundness. But this is something else entirely. Horses don't just suddenly snap both ankles after a work on a regular basis with the cause being bad breeding.

    Is this happening on other tracks around the country? No, so there's something wrong with THAT track.

    I have no idea why nobody is seeing that.

    And it makes me sick that people are going to use this to try to boycott racing. The issue isn't with racing, it's with something very clearly wrong with this track.
     
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    That picture is HORRIFIC!! :sick::cry:
     
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    Amarea Senior Member

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    Actually, if you would have read all of the posts, nobody is denying there is something with the track. That DOESN’T mean that genetics aren’t a factor in the breakdowns. It is likely a perfect storm of conditions in some of these situations. It would be irresponsible for someone to claim that all the breakdowns are 100% because of genetics or 100% due to the track conditions.
     
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