I know i'm been posting a lot but I am overwelmed. I got a much larger spending limit for a saddle and now I can pretty much buy a collegiate, courbette or used bates, etc. I need close contact saddle that has a short flap that is not too far forward. Something similar to the wintec CC or the bates CC. I think the arosa and the axxis look promising but I keep on hearing bad things about the leather dye and sore backs. Then some other saddles I like are the ovations but they seem to have very long forward flaps for jumping. Also there are the circuits and thornhills and tons of other saddle that I've never heard of. I do not want an all purpose. Those have long flaps and put me in a chairseat. I like close contacts. I will most likely be buying a saddle online based on photos. I would like a saddle with changable gullets and there's not much of a problem fitting the horses I ride. I can pretty much have a pick of 2-3 saddles incase some don't fit that I can return or sell. So yeah I think I want something someone here has that they reccomend or that your friend has.