I'm making a new thread on this subject because it was starting to be discussed on another thread ( This Thread Here Which Honestly Just Needs to Rot ) and was becoming off topic. A topic which was already solved anyway and I honestly don't know why I re-opened it. (insert foot in mouth here.) As a disclaimer. This is not in mind to start drama. Drama will be inevitable if people have different opinions and both sides want to change the other's mind. When I say "take this with a grain of salt and keep an open mind' what I mean is "It's ok to have a different opinion, but other people are allowed different opinions as well." In short, civil discussion is possible without everyone agreeing to the same thing. It's a matter of perspective. You can have many people in the same room and no one with have the exact same perspective of that room. Much like dealing with any animal. It's why there are so many different opinions on raising children, dogs, cats, snakes etc. Anyway.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...Rick's rule of thumb seems to have been "if something bad happens, there was something that you could have prevented and therefore it is your fault." He doesn't say that, but with his anti-helmet agenda, that's what it comes off as. What he does say is that if you can't control your horse, you don't belong on your horse. And to some extent, I do agree with him. But I also disagree with him. The whole helmet thing has two sides of the argument which are both logical if you take a step back and look at it. On one side: The helmet is becoming fashionable. An accessory. Popular. To some, this raises red flags because on the absolute base level you can see that companies are trying to get money off of insecurities. Especially when this is a female-dominated hobby. So there is a lot of pink helmets. Women tend to love pink. (That's not exactly true. Pink is so likable because it's a warm, bright color, but men tend to "hate it" because they are forced to/conditioned to. "Pink is gay.") And the market plays on this. Stupid people slap helmets on their kids and then feel like they can turn their backs because for some reason there is this stigma that as long as someone has a helmet on, they are 100% safe, and they did their part as parents. And again, people who lack sense will take a helmet, slap it on, and stop paying attention to queues and things. As someone who worked hospital security, I can also attest that there are still people who walk into the hospital with rather severe head injuries even if they wore a helmet. Could it have been worse? Probably. But the helmet doesn't 100% protect you. It can also increase the chance of your neck snapping due to the added weight on your head. It's quite the distance from the horse to the ground as well and really any height could kill you. So what's the point? I mean if you are scared of the random chances of something, anything, happening that could possibly kill you, therefore you must react to these risks by protecting yourself at all costs, you might as well put on a full body bubble wrap as well. I'd say stay indoors and never leave the house, but that also creates risk. You can't 100% protect yourself from risks so the helmet, in this light, looks like just something for companies to take advantage of and play with peoples fears. Nurses wear gloves to protect themselves against bloodborne pathogens which can kill them from the inside out. Does that mean that the glove industry is making money off people's fears? Well, no. Because bloodborne pathogens are something that we cannot see. Therefore we cannot actually prevent that risk by being observant/smart. Plus they do not have a choice but to take that risk.Same thing with any job with PPE. Factory work included. There are risks that are necessary that people take, and the PPE is a barrier against that. But with horses? This is a good place to segway into the other side. On the other side: Take what I said before because it can be applied to both sides. With horses, who are argued to be both notoriously predictable (as long as you KNOW your horse) and unpredictable. I say they are predictable, but not on a human level. Horses have faster reflex responses than we do. It takes us a second, and a horse much less to react. So by the time we have even acknowledged a threat/potential threat, the horse is already in the process of reacting. So while most things can be avoided by paying attention, yes, there are still things that are unpredictable to us that can potentially happen. So by getting the right PPE, you can avoid that. Most people who dress in the appropriate protective gear are actually more attuned and cautious. People who do not take safety precautions are usually much less because they are comfortable. And when you get comfortable, you stop paying attention. And mistakes tend to happen. A helmet for horse riding is appropriate for that and built specifically by design for falls to protect your brain by spreading impact away from the contact site, which can prevent bouncing and whiplash as well. For Rick, though. it's easier to point out flaws when you look at situations on a frame-by-frame event. He doesn't use this to point out mistakes per say, he uses it to point out what to look for. What they could have done to prevent it. Learning from someone else's mistakes so you do not make your own. He takes a trollish and sarcastic approach as it's mostly women in the field supposedly, so there are more women making mistakes than men are by default. And so when people start boo-hooing about something, apparently Rick finds it funny and turns it into something for him to laugh at. As for his fans, however. It's easy. It's the bandwagon effect. Or pack animal effect. Or mob effect. Whatever you want to call it. If you look up to someone, you tend to emulate how they feel. Or if you are in a group, and they start feeling negatively about something, you might feel more inclined to feel this way as well. It's hardwired into us. I believe it's also called "contagious emotion." So more often than not, fans will emulate Rick's trollish behavior in a manner that he probably did or did not intend. He's a guy who likes horses who finds it funny to upset people because they cannot really upset him. He finds it funny that words are taken personally so he abuses that because it's ridiculous that people allow words to hurt them. At least, that's how I look at it. View points can also be shared by expressing logic and other things that could honestly be believable. So that's why some people disagree with him very abruptly. Because they have something that works for them, therefore it is the only way. He does the same thing. I do not understand it. Maybe it's because I'm wired differently and lack "pack sense," due to the fact I am severely anti-social, but I see the logic of all sides, and I don't honestly think one side is absolutely wrong and the other absolutely right. "Yea, that makes sense and I see it working for him. But this also makes sense to me, and I see it working for you." That kind of thing. I'm sorry if I cannot join the "anti-Rick Gore" agenda, but I honestly see good points being made. And I do take what he says with a grain of salt, because he is a heavily sarcastic person and if you aren't paying attention you can take what he says literally and you'd think he hated his horses because he calls them "stupid." But in many videos he has to stop and explain that he doesn't actually believe they are stupid, and he just says that to get a rise out of people. Same with the pink, helmets, and women stuff he does. Now with the bits.... I don't even know. I was under the impression that bits didn't hurt a horse (unless you yank them) because it fit in a place after the teeth. It's a method of head control, but I didn't know it was a painful one. Anyways, I would like to know more about horses and how they think/behave. I've already learned quite a bit, but for sake of making this thread as short as I could possibly, I am not going to sit here and list out everything I already know. (I'd say "the basics" but I don't have enough experience to confidently say that I know that that the basics are all the basics I know. lol) So slap in some videos or start a discussion. I'm hoping this stays civil, but I'll bet a mod will be on this like a momma horse to a nippy foal if things get out of hand. I apologize in advance if this becomes the case. My focus is entirely on horse behavior at the moment, but the majority of what I know came from Rick's videos. So that is why he is part of the topic.