Navicular Syndrome

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  1. RG NIGHT HEIR

    RG NIGHT HEIR Senior Member

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    I feel devastated as my Chip was dx'd with Navicular syndrome.
    Off and on slightly off worse on soft ground only with the weight of a rider.
    He had 2 hot nails a while back dx'd thru a lameness exam with xrays.
    Reshod 6 weeks later and kind of off inconsistently .I mainly have been walking him on trails and doing work on trails.
    Every Tuesday reining lesson which consists of walking, stopping, turning,backing and waiting.
    We just started to jog and every so often he would take a hard step.
    Called Vet. With the x-rays it was determined that he has navicular syndrome.He doesn't think it's soft tissue due to his very mild lameness and the fact the lameness seemed less noticeable since I had his shoes pulled 3 days ago,something to do with the breakover creating more inflammation.
    He and I decided to start with Corticosteroid injection into the navicular bursa .He should improve in 2 days. There 2 other injections Osphos and Tildren,but much more expensive.
    If no improvement in 2 weeks I will need to come up with 2200$ for a MRI.
    Anyone has any experience that you could share with me?Hopefully with good outcomes.
    Thank you for reading this book....
     
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    ginster Senior Member

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    So sorry to hear that.
    I have no experience with navicular but I would guess sharing the x rays would help...
     
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    slc Senior Member

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    Sorry, hope the xrays are more hopeful.
     
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    BluemoonOKy Senior Member

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    I'd like to see pictures of his feet. Navicular syndrome is a catch all phrase and usually caused by poor traditional farriery. What do the xrays show exactly with regard to the bone? Is there a definite visible change in the navicular bone itself ? If the hoof isn't being managed correctly, no amount of cortisone is going to help. Also, I would be dealing with a track/performance vet rather than a regular riding horse vet...your vet, or at least what you posted makes it seem as if your vet is indicisive...And that would not be acceptable to me...like what you said about he doesn't think its soft tissue...well, he'd better darn well know before he pulls his needle medicine out and starts injecting joints. I would contact Patty Stiller if she is still around...she is out on the west coast. At least for a consult. Would you be willing to post the xrays?
     
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    Faster Horses Senior Member

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    I will second allllllll of this!
     
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    RG NIGHT HEIR Senior Member

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    @BluemoonOKy Thanks for your response. I don't have 2200$ for the MRI being on medical leave on my own.So he said in a few appropriate cases like with my horse he suggested to do one of the 3 injection I mentioned.He explained the implications of steroid injections if there is soft tissue damage.No definite changes on the navicular bone but he suggested there was a possibly a bone cyst as much as I remember. There is so much information coming my way I felt overwhelmed
    I fired the new farrier that shoed 3x not answering my questions ,hotnails.I'm awaiting a call from a specialist that is difficult to get an appointment with.
    I don't have access to the x-rays but I guess I could ask them to be emailed to me.
    If have taken horses to a performance /track vet in the past and will do so once I have money saved up again.
     
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    RG NIGHT HEIR Senior Member

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    Ok,
    I'm also looking for any experience with Osphos or Tildren.
     
  8. BluemoonOKy

    BluemoonOKy Senior Member

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    Navicular syndrome means unidentifiable heel pain. Ill bet his feet are being trimmed wrong...which means a good biomechanically correct trim can fix it.
    Absolutely do not do injections until you know for sure there are some serious navicular changes. And I wouldn't even be thinking about tildren or osphos. Based on the "I dont think " it's blah blah coming from your vet, I say HELL NO to injections. And, I would not tolerate that sort of nonsense from my vet...what makes him think there is a bone cyst ? Can you get pictures of him barefoot exactly like this ? Good Hoof Photos - How to take Good Hoof Photos
    We can help you more when we see the hoof photos. Unless your horse is digging holes with his front feet and standing in them trying to change the angles of his bones, I wouldn't freak out just yet.
    I would like to see the xrays too.
     
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    palogal Senior Member

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    Navicuular is really not death sentence anymore. My friends retired show gelding was diagnosed a year or two ago. There's so much that can be done shoeing wise to make the horse comfortable. My friends gelding is quite sound, he can never be barefoot and he is on a very strict farrier schedule but it works. He's on some supplements I believe and meds of some sort, bute for really bad days (which there aren't many at all) and he's perfectly ride-able. It's all in the maintenance and realizing what the horse can and cannot do. Her gelding will never jump and shouldn't be ridden on really rocky ground.
     
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    Arem Senior Member

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    Sounds exactly like my horse. She was lame on her right front. Not horribly, but lame. Took her for a lameness examing. Blocking revealed that it was her foot causing the lameness. X-rayed her. No definite changes to the navicular bone, but the vet didn’t have anything else to diagnose her as, so.... Navicular.

    I have good news for you! Your horse doesn’t have Navicular. Not true navicular, anyway. And he should be totally, completely fixable.

    My horse is sound now. :) We even barrel race. I fixed her hoof balance and doing that fixed the lameness.

    So I’m going to echo the suggestion of posting hoof pictures so we can see what’s up.
     
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