Mustang with navicular disease

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  1. willeys bonanza

    willeys bonanza Senior Member

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    So my bfs mustang was recently diagnosed with navicular disease. He's been out of the wild for about 2 years and he bought him from the original trainers to be an endurance horse in August. He doesn't have to best conformation and runs like a tank, I mean riding him I've never been on a horse that feels as hard on himself as he does. Just riding him beats you up. Anyway he had been working him about 40 miles a week up to November when he rode is first race, he vetted fine but after that he started getting extremely sour to the point he would stop on trails. In December on the lunge line he was slightly off on the right but fine in larger circles and didn't have any heat in the leg. We didn't work him all December and January, he seemed to be getting better until two days before our vet appointment when put him in a new field and he ran from us when we went to cat h him, he was the more lame than he had ever been but the be t morning when we he ran from us he seemed fine and the ver thought he was fine before X-rays. On the X-rays we found what the doc called as calcified cartilage on the right foot above the coronet band which could cause inflammation and erosion of the navicular bone. He didn't want to pick up the right foot for the left X-ray and had slight erosion on the left and was diagnosed navicular. After talking to the ppl he bought the horse from they think having too tight of shoes caused lack of blood flow and that loosening the shoes can reverse it because he is only 5. I have never had a navicular horse so I have no idea. I personally think its how hard he is on himself and not being built to run 40 miles a week with 200 lbs on his back. Doc thinks what I do and that it has probably been in the process most of his life, he has only had shoes on since the end of October and is on permanent turn out. What do you guys think/ have experience with?
     






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    willeys bonanza Senior Member

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    Also if he still has a career in endurance
     
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    IIIBarsV Senior Member+

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    If it's above the coronet, it's not the navicular bone--- it would be ringbone or sidebone. Could you possibly get a copy of the xrays and post them here? Regular pics of the hooves would also be a good thing right now.

    This is probably the first born-wild mustang I've heard of getting navicular, so I'm sure there's probably something going on in with his hooves. Some of the mustangs I've seen tend to need trims at 5 weeks or they start getting out of balance because the hooves are so tough that they don't wear off very well in a domestic setting.

    Shoes right now may exacerbate the problem unless his conformation is causing him to wear his hooves off-balance (even then, it can be managed with regularly correct trimming). Instead, the balance problems in the hooves need to be fixed--- because those are CAUSING the problem.

    Conformation pictures would be great, too. Most wild-born mustangs I've seen don't usually have the kind of conformation problems that result in this sort of issue after going domestic.
     
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    willeys bonanza Senior Member

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    No the X-ray shows erosion of the navicular and calcium on the coronet band also that doc says has been growing for a long time. I wouldn't worry about his confirmation and would go for the shoe problem if he wasn't running 40 miles a week with his movement. And to me having shoes on (in the winter months when they don't grow as fast) would cause that much damage, my eventer is shod by the same farrier for the past three years and hasn't had a problem. I agree that most mustangs are hardy horses but nature doesnt breed them for ppl to run miles on unlike Arabians. Does he still have a career in endurance? Even now After he already has a problem, if it is corrected would his pounding movement beat down that area the second time around?
     
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    Austinngirl Senior Member+

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    Umm..but mustangs DO run miles in the wild...
     
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    Ask yourself this...would you want to run races with sore feet/legs? I am guessing that this is a fairly young horse (less than 10 yrs old), so why would you want to use a horse with known hoof/leg problems as an endurance horse? That is not fair to the horse. If the horse was sold to you as an endurance horse I would ask for your money back. If the previous owners think they can fix the horse then let them try, you can always buy the horse back if he becomes sound enough for riding endurance races.
     
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    Austinngirl Senior Member+

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    I think he was an endurance horse before they noticed it was lame..
     
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    Ossifications don't usually deposit IN the coronet band, that's why I'm asking if he's got high ringbone or sidebone in addition to the degeneration.

    And no, he likely will not be able to keep up with 40 mile runs on hard footing with this going on, on imbalanced hooves, shod or not.
     
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    willeys bonanza Senior Member

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    That is what I am asking. Sey writing this on an iPhone so gets confusing. He is 5, he was bought with the want of doing endurance and hadn't done anything except basic training until we got him. I agree wild horses run miles but not with 200lbs on their back. I personally don't think he should be raced but when talking to a guy they have their own mindsets. I didn't totally understand the calcification but after we found erosion of the navicular bone it was the least of our worries. Like I said I have never felt with a navicular horse so I just want second opinions. From what their farrier said if we give him more lip on the front of the shoe it will give more space for the hoof to grow and relieve pressure and the bone will grow back. I was just wondering if anyone else had heard or used the remedy
     
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    That is ridiculous. Pulling the shoes and putting a good rocker on the feet is the proper way to do what your farrier is jabbering about. He needs breakover...every horse does IMO. Are his shoes flat? I really want to see pics of his feet and the xrays.
     






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