Mare has lump on her chest

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  1. bluereign

    bluereign Full Member

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    I haven't been able to mess w any of my broodmares for the past 2 weeks, because of the holiday, but I finally brought them all up today. While I was grooming Tink (17yr old WH) I noticed this strange lump on her chest.

    It's on the left side of her chest. It's a hard lump and a little lower is what feels like a sac of fluid. I didn't feel any scabs and she didn't budge while I was messing with it. What could this be???
     
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  2. 3WishesDun

    3WishesDun Senior Member+

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    Perhaps a hematoma? (maybe she was kicked)
    I am not sure if it occurs in your area...but another thought would be Pigeon Fever.
     
  3. bluereign

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    She may have been kicked, I don't know. I've never heard of Pigeon Fever...?
     
  4. UsaHrsRidr2006

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    Pigeon Fever is like strangles on steriods its horrible!!

    http://http://www.completerider.com/ucolorado/PIGEONFEVERINEQUINES.html
    go to that link to read about it..


    or it might just be a hematoma..
    i would still have your vet check it out.
    If its a hema toma he/she might lance it and youd have to clean it out really well
     
  5. Bluey~Is~Mine

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    Very Important Info

    G'day horse lovers! Hoemotonia (what the 1st replier said, hope I spelled right!) is what it is more than likly to be. Yes it does occur in this area and sadly they take a while to heal up. Fortuntly they don't cause a lot of pain, but are hard to fix. If it is one of these, the vet may have to put a hole in it and let the blood drain out. I don't know what causes these, but Jester (Royal Jester, an ex - a grade showjumper from the RDA branch I volunteer at has one:(. He has had it 4 quite some time, and the lump is slowly going down. I recemnd you only cut it open once, if this does not help, let it scab over and leave it. Ifit is to bad your vet may be able to cut it out, but that is a risky process. To heal it up, you may need 2 give Tink a series of about 5 specially prescribed injectiosn from your vet 4 five days and you'll also need to hose it down and dis infect it 1-2 times per day, this is from my expirence with Jester. I have helped a lot with the wound and it has been hard work. But jester has been really placid, calm, gentle and loving and this is lucky because h is 1 hands and I am farly short, so he is a VERY big horse! Hemitonis or whatever they are caused are caused from horses being kicked, them bumping themselves in the paddock exc. Also what colour is your horse? You've probally mentioned this before, but I haven't noticed, LOL! It wouldn't be grey by any chance? If so, it could be a type of cancer, melontoni or something like that, a skin cancer. Speak to your vet as soon as possible and talk to yours vet before you go ahead with what I have told you!!!

    Gotta Gallop,

    Bluey~Is~Mine
     
  6. UsaHrsRidr2006

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    Bluey wow you know alot about hematomas..

    I recemnd you only cut it open once, if this does not help, let it scab over and leave it. this part i know on a filly at my barn that had a hematoma we had to clean it out everyday with just some water just to make sure any debris is out and it doesnt get infected. You shouldnt let it scrab up if your washing it everyday untill the swelling goes down.
     
  7. Blistering Winds

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    Actually, i'm going to disagree on "Cutting" it open.

    how big is it?



    do you have a picture?




    if it is just a hematomoa/edema from being kicked, leave it.

    however, if you do suspect abcess, you and your VET may want to pop a needle in it and aspirate it.

    If PF is suspected, lancing it now wont' do a darn thing. You have to wait till a certain stage, THEN Lance it. Lancing it now only makes your horse miserable and chance to spread it to more horses.

    MOST hematomas just go away. And most vets here in the US don't do anything unless it is there for more than a week without progress. (that usually starts when you see it)

    From there, they may drain it. MOST vets I've worked with on a hematoma do not "LANCE" it. They just aspirate and drain it down. Flush it, but ONLY use one needle poke. Lancing a hematoma can do more damage than good, by causing MORE tissue damage. So careful on just 'lancing' a hematoma.


    Now, if you suspect PF, wait about a week......the abcess will get bigger, it should go through a "HARD" stage.

    Get back with me if you think it is that.....


    It is EVERYWHERE and epidemics are spreading in many parts of the country that usually do not see it.

    We got nailed this year bad.

    and I'm still fighting it on my own personal horse.
     
  8. bluereign

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    BW I'm sorry to hear about your horse, PF sounds absolutely horrible.

    I don't have a pic, I tried to load some on my computer and it wouldn't let me for some reason.

    It started out the size of a baseball...though not sticking out that much. Just a large hard lump...and a little lower below it is a sack of fluid. Over the past day or two it has gotten bigger....both the lump/sac. I don't think it's PF, she doesn't have any of the symptoms...and the pics I've seen of it, don't look like what she has. Hopefully I'm not wrong.

    I've called the vet and she is due out around 2. I'm praying it's nothing big. I'll update as soon I can.

    I appreciate all the help!!!
     
  9. Blistering Winds

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    could be a snake or spider bite too

    weird place, but still


    you'd be suprised. my horse had zero symptoms, and when he presented, it was on his stifle, not chest...
     
  10. Bluey~Is~Mine

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    G'day! I did a search on the web for hematoma and found next to nothing really! Mostly was just forums with people (like u) who had a horse with a hemotonia. I did find something on that free wiklipedia thingy, I've posted the link. I don't know if it is any good, I had trouble understanding what they meant actually, good luck!

    Gotta Gallop,

    Bluey~Is~Mine

    Ethmoid hematoma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    P.S I can't make the links where u just click on them and they take you to the site, well this one won't anyway. Just type it into the address post and see ifit takes u anywhere (I copied and pasted it from the web address post so that is probaly why!)
     






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