Is this saddle semi or full quarter horse bars? *pics*

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  1. shymare

    shymare Senior Member

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    I couldn't figure out what to measure so I just measured a bunch of stuff. I had to do this by myself so the pics aren't that good. If you can show me what to measure I can get better pics. Also, this is a 14" saddle, right? Thanks.

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  2. tlwidener

    tlwidener Senior Member+

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    I think it is a 15" seat. None of the pictures show the correct way to measure the bars. You usually measure from concho to concho. Even without the right pic, to me it looks like a SQH tree, because it is an upside down V instead of a U.
     
  3. shymare

    shymare Senior Member

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    Concho to concho, coming right up!
     
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    A measurement in the gullet doesn't mean much to me. You can't accurately tell what type bars your saddle has for several reasons:

    Every manufacturer is different. What a SQH is to one is a FQH for another. There is no industry standard.

    You can't accurately measure the tree once the saddle is built.

    The measurement you can take that will be relatively accurate is the gullet width. But that doesn't mean a whole lot. Everyone talks about it because it is really the only measurement we can take. The real measurement, that you can't take once the saddle is built, is the angle of the bars. That means more than gullet width.

    Having said all of that, I have found that the more inexpensive the saddle is the narrower the gullet and the more angled the bars. When you get to high end saddles, they have wider gullets and less angled bars - so they tend to fit more stock breed horses better.
     
  6. seaecho

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    You didn't measure the gullet in the right place. It should be measured right AT the conchos--not above them. Also, the tape measure is too far out--it should be INSIDE, pressed up tight against the flocking on both sides. Looks like its most likely semi bars, and if measured correctly would be close to 6 1/2," which would indicate semi. Also, it depends on the saddle brand. Some run more narrow or more wide. Also, the seat appears to be a 15." It needs to be measured from the base of the horn to the highest part of the cantle. You don't have it up quite far enough under the horn. Is that a HOLE behind the horn, or is it just the picture? There are lots of saddle experts here though, that can shed a lot more light on it than I can.
     
  7. seaecho

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    We all appeared to be typing at the same time, lol.
     
  8. shymare

    shymare Senior Member

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    *headdesk* Why is this so difficult. It's a Wintec, and I want to get another Wintec so I'm not really worried about the brand thing...Are you supposed to squish the fleech down when you measure it?
     
  9. shymare

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    Base of the horn to the highest part of the cantel is definately 15". You just saved me a big mistake there!!! And the hole is in the measuring tape, not the saddle.
     
  10. tlwidener

    tlwidener Senior Member+

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    I'm 90% sure that saddle has SQH bars and a 15" seat. It is pretty hard to tell sometimes though, so don't feel bad. Like others have said, though there really isn't an industry standard. It varies widely from maker to maker.
     






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