How the TB industry uses foster nursemares in Ireland

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  1. D_BaldStockings

    D_BaldStockings Senior Member

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    Not all mares will accept strange foals.
    Rejection can be violent and injure or traumatize the foal.

    Nursemares really are a special Godsend if she is a good and loving one.
     
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    From what I know, most mares won't take a strange foal. It'd be a huge risk bringing in a strange mare also, not knowing her history and temperament as well as health. I know it'd be an under duress scenario no matter what though.
     
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    I see she's paying herself $20,000 per year in the form of rent. Plus the $32,192 loan to Victoria Goss by the charity, on top of the $7000/year they are paying her directly.

    $14,942 for truck and trailer maintenance
    $14,686 for gravel and shavings
    $11,388 for the barns and buildings (maintenance? new ones?)

    The farrier was a real bargain though - $720.

    They paid $23,040 to purchase horses. That's INSANE. So is 80,439 for All Other Expenses.

    Seems to me that if the Jockey Club and the Standardbred folks went after her for slander and libel that might be a good thing. Plus any other breed organization she's insisting are also in the habit of spending 3x as much money on a nurse mare than letting a mare care for her own foal.
     
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    D_BaldStockings Senior Member

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    $5,000 Occupancy? This in addition to rent of $20,000.
    Interesting that horse purchase $ is just <$3,000 less than feed... $23,040 vs $25,832.
    What is the 'other expense' of $80,439?

    And public support % = 100.00 on Schedule A part II.

    Schedule D part VI Equipment of $26,000 and OTHER of $73,000+? (that isn't land, building, or leasehold)

    Schedule O 'Stall cleaning and Misc. help" $42,779 ($3,564+/month)
    General Supplies $7,117 (not including shavings, gravel, tools, equipment)

    Explain what the taxes of $4,826 are for- if no buildings or land belong to the rescue (per schedule D) -would that be sales tax?

    Quite interesting.
     
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    Didn't she also get a loan of $30,000 dollars to herself in 2014 990?

    Sweet....what a crock.
     
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    Nursemare farms need to sue her too.
     
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    And tell me how dragging these young foals to the VA Horse Expo is logical? But of course can't get as much money if they are not dragging these babies out.

    And funny...she made big deal of how these young foals can't travel with their dams...but SHE can drag them all over?



    nursemare foals at va horse expo.jpg
     
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    There are techniques for getting a mare to accept a foal. It's called 'grafting'. Newer medications help with the process.

    Of course the bottom line is that it's not necessary to put a foal on a nurse mare. There have been big changes/improvements in caring for orphan foals and big improvements in feeds (including being able to leave the preparing milk out in a bucket and it won't spoil and won't be over-consumed).
     
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    A milk bucket does not teach horse manners or give a foal a refuge in a herd situation. Or take off at a canter and stimulate the foal to gallop and keep up.

    It isn't that you can't raise a foal without a good nursemare; it is that a nursemare does a better job of 'growing the mental and emotional needs' of the horse; especially a horse that is to be in hot, pressured competition like racing, steeplechasing or group arena showing.

    Even a gelding 'Nanny' (I've had one) is better for a baby horse than no dam.
    Note the gelding cared for, groomed and doted on this filly; whose mom was a good milk bar, but not the brightest.

    That filly really turned out to be the little girl with the little curl - tough, tough, tough. But smart as a whip and when she realized life went better if she did as asked, she was the first to get with the program. -Been gone over a decade and miss her to this day.
     
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