OK - so I'm an english rider and I'm pretty knowledgable about training horses horse to have an English type headset....but how in the world do western riders get their horses heads to be so low for such a long amount of time? Also, just something I was thinking about but not trying to say western horses don't work or are not being ridden properly....however, how can a western pleasure horse be truly collected with his head so low? In dressage and such, the neck/poll of the horse HAS to be up for his to be truly collected. So my thought it, do western pleasure horses truly have collection or just a softness to the mouth? Again, NOT trying to insult western people...just a thought in my mind.