Horse pinninng ears while doing groundwork

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  1. mftowner06

    mftowner06 Senior Member+

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    Friday since I had the day off I went out to the barn and worked with Chief. And thought this would be a good day to go through each one of Clinton Anderson ground work exercises in his I and II series. He did good, no problems until we got to the sending exercise, when he turned his head/neck and took off. He does it so fast that it caught me off guard :flaming: and after he does it's not like he goes running wild around the barn visiting horses he'll run off and stop to graze. I brought him back we did some more exercises. Then let him cool off, let him stand and put him away. It was a long day for him and I was probably doing too much at one time. But I was letting him rest between exercises and repititions. Oh and we were not in the round pen, I was doing these exercise in a different area to give him a new 'setting'. Thought he might be bored with being in the round pen, silly me for trying to liven up his training :rolleyes:

    So Saturday I worked him again we didn't do as many exercises but we did the sending and the lounging for respect stage 1 and 2 - and he started to really pinning his ears at me, and it didn't matter what I did - make him hustle his feet, let him rest didn't matter he would pin his ears. I don't want him to be angry when we do ground work, I want him to respect me and do what I ask of him with a good attitude.

    Any suggestions - the other suggestions that I've gotten from other groups is - stay in the round pen, keep the sessions shorter, mix it up for him when doing the lounging - 1/2 circle YH, 1/2 YH again, full circle YTH etc...

    Any other suggestions?
     






  2. palogal

    palogal Senior Member+

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    He's giving you attitude. It could be caused by several things. You may be going to fast for him and he's aggravated. Go back to the simple moving off exercises for a day or two and see if he has a better attitude. Whatever you do, don't baby him and let him off the hook. If you slow down and he's still being that way, you move on and get the job done. CA's book explains this thought better than I do unfortunately. I would step back for a day or two and then move forward again.
     
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    mftowner06 Senior Member+

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    Due to the weather he's getting couple of days off, too muddy to work him in the round pen. But yes I totally agree with you about slowing down and seeing if that helps with the attitude.

    Thank you for the suggestion
     
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    He says in his book that the worse thing you can do is beg and baby a horse to like you. He says that if the horse is still being a **** you just move on an expect him to behave. I tend to agree. There are several horses I've had in training that are obedient and do as they are asked that didn't particularly like me at first. So I moved on with them and ignored the attitude, they came around. It's pretty anti-Parelli but it makes sense if you think about the herd mentality. The alpha doesn't beg the herd to like her, she goes about her business and the herd comes around to her way eventually to live in harmony.
     
  5. bellatink89

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    try something other than clinton anderson
     
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    And why's that? Any suggestions?
     
  7. palogal

    palogal Senior Member+

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    Some folks don't like CA for the same reason I can't stand Parelli - just not my thing and I think he's a bunch of BS. Chris Cox is awesome if you want to check out something else and also Craig Cameron is pretty awesome too. They're both rather similar to CA though. Julie Goodnight is good too. Dennis Reis is similar to Parelli and I don't like him either.

    So, how's he doing?
     
  8. bellatink89

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    the whole "having a method thing" is bs to me. its just a way for them to make money. ever seen CA's stick and string? like 40 bucks - and its just like using a lunge whip. Every horse is different. you might have to take things from different methods to put a method together for THIS horse. you know your horse better than anyone. Youll be able to tell rather quickly what will work for him/her or what wont. whether its someting from parelly or ken mcnabb or craig cameron or just something you know - from horsey experience :eek:)
     
  9. bellatink89

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    sorry his handy stick with the string is 50 bucks. i just checked.
     
  10. palogal

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    That's pretty old news that their stuff is overpriced ;) I call my stick my "salad stick". It's green and I got it off ebay for I think 10 bucks. I like it better than a lunge whip though. The lunge whip is too flexible for me, I find the stick easier to use with more precision. My method is a combination of most of the big guys with a lot of "me-ness" thrown in. Kind of like religion, different for everybody.
     






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