Horse is attacking people -- help!

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  1. ILYCODAxoxo

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    There's a horse at my barn named Thunder, hes already attacked 3 people, including me. 2 of them hes knocked to the ground and ran over. When he attacked me, thank goodness i dodged him just barely! The barn owner only took him because her friend couldn't afford him anymore, but we didn't know he would be attacking people. He's a chincoteague island pony. He was a stallion and had a herd. When he was rounded up and bought the owners didn't geld him soon enough. He wasn't gelded til he was 12 (I think, not sure though), now he is 18. My barn owner is now desperately trying to get rid of him, but nobody wants a horse that attacks people. Nobody wants to put him down, but that may be the only option, especially since the barn I ride at is a lesson barn with little kids. Me and my friend are her trainers, but we're still minors, and she doesn't want us going in there trying to train him but getting attacked (which is understandable).

    Please no tips like, smack him with a crop, smack his nose when he comes after you. We've tried this, but it only urges him more. Any form of trying to dominate him, he attacks you. And I'm not talking just turning towards you with his ears pinned, he full out charges you. Like I said, hes already knocked down and ran over 2 people, and almost did that to me until I just barely made it out of the round pen. Any tips? He also doesn't like ropes, so he might attack you even when you swing a rope at him. I really don't want him to be put down, hes a great horse under saddle, just terrible on the ground. And hes adorable, so it makes it even harder :/

    Thanks!
     
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  2. Lopinslow

    Lopinslow Senior Member+

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    he needs more than a "smack" with a crop, he needs an ALL OUT beating if he comes after a person. get yourself a buggy length whip and when he comes at you, you let loose with that whip like a MAD woman, screaming and whipping that thing as hard and fast as you can AT him, hitting him UNTIL he backs off.

    if that doesn't do it, put him down
     
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  3. BluemoonOKy

    BluemoonOKy Senior Member+

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    He needs a come to Jesus meeting with an experienced stallion handler in the round pen or with someone (or a couple of people) that can tie him up and safely lay him down on the ground. That's the kind of horse that will kill you or bite you in the face and take your nose off. Unfortunately, (and I am not saying this lightly) the best thing for him may be to put him down. A horse like that has no self preservation so he won't care about anyone else's preservation either. Sounds like a bad situation all around.
     
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  4. Abberlaze

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    I would never suggest that a minor do that.

    Or anyone who is not extremely confident and done this many times before.

    Life is too short for horses that aren't fun or useful.
     
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  5. BossLady

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    If the horse has a chance of being turned around within the owners means, I think it's worth trying. If there is no one of sufficient skill or confidence to try it then I would certainly agree with you.
     
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    Allkian Senior Member+

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    This horse sounds incredibly dangerous. I cannot fathom how a horse like this could be good under saddle? I'm curious how you even get a saddle ON him? I have a REALLY hard time believing it. Since it does not sound like you are the owner of the horse, then there really isn't anything YOU can do, but stay OUT of his enclosure and stay AWAY from him. I am very concerned that the owner would allow anyone in there knowing that he is violent.

    TBH, if I were in this situation, I would likely euthanize him barring a serious committment to training. There ARE some horses that just cannot be turned around. However, there are a lot of holes in the story. If he CAN be saddled, then it could be just a serious behavior issue that needs a few 'lessons' in manners to get things safe. But, if this gelding does not respond to some real training, then there really isn't a safe option for keeping him.

    I've handled stallions and proud cut geldings and they will DEFINITELY test you. They get away with it once, then twice, things go bad quickly. If this gelding is able to continue attacking people, he is getting that mentality ingrained in him.

    This sounds really like a scary situation. Its only a matter of time until someone is seriously injured or killed.
     
  7. StarPattern

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    I've handled a lot of rank stallions, but have never felt fearful for my life. Sure, they test and yes, they act like idiots... but I've never come across one that will actually attack a person. The worst stallion I ever handled did snake his head at me, pin his ears and start snapping the air. He pawed in my general direction, I gave his chain a quick jerk and that was it. He threatened, I responded, he never repeated. I just made sure to carry a crop around him, just in case. If it was me, I'd turn him over to an experienced stallion handler and let him be given a 'come to Jesus' moment. Horses should not attack people. If the 'come to Jesus' moment doesn't work, put him down.
     
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  8. Krisfulc

    Krisfulc Senior Member

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    Just curious, why was he rounded up in the first place?
     
  9. Zephyer1995

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    My filly hated to work and hated to be told what to do. She would rear and strike at you. A LOT of roundpen time changed her attitude. Honestly, if it were me on your situation, I'd be all for him being put down
     
  10. MissApril

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    Be extremely careful, we can get hurt so easily!
     
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