Genuine Pine APHA/AQHA stallion?

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  1. seaglimmerfarms

    seaglimmerfarms Senior Member

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    So here I have a sweet little mare who's not only a spiffy little halter horse but a spiffy little WP/HUS horse and now looking at being a spiffy little reining horse. According to SOME sources her sire was an AQHA/APHA registered "crop out" stallion back in the 80s who was an NRHA 2x world champion. But I can't find any real substantial evidence to support that. He is on her papers and I have found HIS dam who is none other then the great mare "The Great Escape" an NRHA money earner of NRHA $19,548.41 and her total offspring earnings were NRHA $229,705.34. To her own merit she only was the dam to 12 foals. 8 of which became top performers. She herself was top 10 at the NRHA Open Futurity, she was the Ohio Valley RHA Breeder's Futurity Non-Pro Champion, the NRHA Super Stakes Futurity Intermediate Non Pro-Champion, and the NRHA Super Stakes Futurity Non-Pro Champion.

    Can anyone confirm Genuine Pine's status as a champion? Not that it matters much. I'd just like to know for future benefit. The only record I have of this is a dead link on google and a sale page for a yearling colt that says "
    One year old blood bay colt out of Reining Champion Genuine Pine."

    The filly's dam's side is much more easy to work out. Dam's sire is "Dun Gift Wrapped" who was an APHA World Champion. Only issue is Genuine Pine.

    Input greatly appreciated.


     






  2. Smooth IE

    Smooth IE Senior Member

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    Going from your info.. he was APHA registered, correct? When I looked up "Genuine Pine" on APHA, the horse is a 1997 model. He was a "crop out" though. Out of The Great Escape like you said, by Genuine Doc. He has 7 APHA points in Reining.

    This is the picture listed
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    Really not sure if it's the same horse.. but going by the pedigree, the name, and the fact that he's a crop out I would suspect that he's your mares sire..
     
  3. seaglimmerfarms

    seaglimmerfarms Senior Member

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    Judging by my mare's looks I'd say that's him. So "reining champion" is bogus? I suppose I can always call the NRHA. Good god. If he had a smaller head and more white he'd be my girlie;

    Crappy photos but here she is;
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  4. Smooth IE

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    I would definitely call NRHA. It's much more likely for him to have a "big" show record with NRHA than it is APHA. APHA doesn't generally draw in a big reining crowd. :p
     
  5. Gutter_Doll

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    There was a stallion called "Great Blue Pine" in the 80's.. That's the only thing that comes to mind.
     
  6. Haas Horse Farm

    Haas Horse Farm Senior Member+

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    Is this horses registered name in AQHA "The Great Pretender" ? If so he has NRHA earnings in total of $6661.05 2598.13 Cat 1 and 4062.92 Cat 2.


    I am wondering if they are confusing him with Great Pine... Who was placed in the NRHA hall of fame in 1995
     
  7. seaglimmerfarms

    seaglimmerfarms Senior Member

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    I believe his AQHA registered name IS "the Great Pretender". I'll ring up the NRHA and ask them about this guy and see what info they can give me. That's really fricken confusing with him being dual registered under two different names. I thought about them confusing him with Great Pine. Great Pine, however, is his maternal grand sire. There are now three links saying Genuine Pine was an NRHA champion. But with him only having earned just under $6700 LTE I'm suspect. Not that I really care since I love the little mare. She has a heart of gold.
     
  8. Haas Horse Farm

    Haas Horse Farm Senior Member+

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    Well some events do not show on the earning list... There were some changes years back but I forget what all it involved. I think that some futurities are not listed. Your best bet is to call NRHA.
     
  9. tracyl

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    That is Genuine Pine APHA (aka the Great Pretender, NRHA) also doubled registered Great Genuine Pine AQHA. He was 2001 APHA World Show Champion in Freestyle Reining, FRHA Novice Open Year End Champion, Multiple Bronze Trophy Winner, and 2002 APHA Congress Stallion Stakes Champion, APHA Congress 3rd. I owned him for many years. My contact info is found at LAW941.com, Tracy Lee
     
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    He was alos the Co-reserve Futurity Champion at the Tradition Futurity
     






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