Foundation Quarter horse stallion

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  1. tightpaycheck

    tightpaycheck Senior Member+

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    What do you guys think of this guy?
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    I'm not really into foundation breeding, and I wasn't too sure what they are supposed to look like. Can someone with more knowledge about foundation-bred horses give me a solid critique? Also could someone explain the whole foundation thing to me? In small words? The website started off with how most quarter horses aren't really because they have too much TB in them. But wasn't Three Bars a TB? He is listed as 100% foundation, but he goes back to Three bars a few times.
     






  2. Blistering Winds

    Blistering Winds Senior Member+

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    Depends on which association he is registered with from what I am finding out.

    But even with three bars, he can be almost 100% by design of the equations....but like a part arabian, they are never fully 100%......

    He's cute. But I don't like that he's bum high.....not much I could argue against....long loin as well.

    More "racers" are designed that way, but not foundation that I've been researching.

    However...overall for the foundation horses....he looks like a "poster horse" for them. He has many of the characteristics seen among the higher percentages......and if he has any of the hancock horses in his line, that would DEFINITLY explain the head and neck not matching the body. Seems to be a STAMP for that line of horses.

    Doublebarr should be able to dive into this in some serious depth when she sees this thread.
     
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  3. old horse mom

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    Look at the National Quarterhorse Foundation Association- it has a section on what they want foundation horses to look like. He is awfully coarse and thick in the head/neck area- not very pleasing to look at.
     
  4. Blistering Winds

    Blistering Winds Senior Member+

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    Old Horse, in my foundation horse crash course the past few weeks, I have found that MANY high % foundation have the ugly head and necks.


    Tightpaycheck.....
    NFQHA and FQHR both are foundation registries, however they have different "qualifications" when it comes to who counts as what.

    Like on my mare, when Cindy did up the calcs, she is 94 in one, 96% in the other if I remember what she told me off the top of my head.

    And I forgot to ask, what is his full reg name???
     
  5. tightpaycheck

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    His name is Hacksaws Ghost I don't see anywhere on his website where it says who he is registered with. It says he is the only solid black foundation quarter horse in North America, and that 95% of his babies are black. Here is his website Westphalia Ranch - Stallion
     
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    That horse is reg with the aqha he's also dna'd & he's also reg with the apha.
     
  7. doublebarr

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    While not a bad looking stud, this horse is not 100% FQH by NFQHA or FQHR or WFQHA or MFQHA. And theses are the only FQH associations that actually have national points and "breed specific shows" to earn those recognized points at. So I'm thinking that they are possibly registered through FQHA who is the only FQH registry that considers Three Bars 100% foundation. And, he may be the only "black breeding stallion" of record in the FQHA, but he's deffinately not the only FQH black stallion out there:)

    He does look like he would make very hardy, good working Ranch horses that are pretty true to the "old line" quarter horses. His ped. is all right, but if you registered him through the other FQH registries, he would percentage out in the high 80's to very low 90's. So you would have to be careful what you bred him to, to stay in valid FQH percentages for NFQHA, but probably ok in FQHR, WFQHA and MFQHA.

    TP -edited to add: For info on FQH's and showing see: Foundation Quarter Horses & Showing:)
     
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