Where do they diverge? I often see people dismissing the idea of 'dressage' because it is "poncing about in arena with the head cranked in" Sadly there are those who actually do ride like that....and many many more who believe that is what dressage is....but now I'm wondering where it starts and stops... I never took dressage lessons as a kid, BUT we rode on bridle paths that had gates, and you soon learned how to open and close a gate on horse back, save all the mounting and dismounting...so were doing some amount of moving away from the leg to maneuver. I was chatting to a friend at the barn yesterday, and she thinks that as soon as you pick up any contact, rather than a loose rein, then you are into dressage rather than flatwork. When I watch the jumpers having a flatwork lesson, then it is different to watching a dressage lesson "Sit forward, get out of the tack, two point for two laps" we are all, sit down, get your butt in the tack" etc. I'm not sure....dressage is just training...Dressage is dancing....but I have no idea how to classify the difference between flatwork, dressage and Dressage!!!