does my horse have white line disease?

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  1. pyper2112

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    my vet just retired so we are in the middle of finding a new one or else i would ask him this question . my horse was shod about three weeks ago and the farrier said that she had white line disease in three hooves. not knowing what that was i researched it on here. her hooves don't look anything like what was described or pictured . they aren't breaking off or developing a groove or anything. all that was there was a white line where her outer hoof wall ends so then i thought it was a growth line (is there such a thing?) i had a friend look at it about a week after she was shod and the line was worn from her walking around outside it wasn't white anymore. her hooves look as normal as can be, my friend said that it was where he trimmed her too short and there is a point on the hoof where there is flesh or something like that . she isn't sore or anything. and i'm so confused:help!: can someone help?
     






  2. eventin_papa

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    it could be an early stage of white line, we had a horse at ouir barn w/ it and at first it didn't look bad at all but over thte months its got soo bad, she has noo hoof, not even enough to shoe!! its really sad, she might have to be put down, but i shure hope thsat your horse doesnt have it! good luck, so as much rsearch as you can and get your vet out asap, because he'll know if it is white line dsease! im so soorry!
     
  3. lobeans

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    My horse went through an 8 month period of white line disease. It's not a pretty sight. His foot actually separated from the outer hoof and he almost foundered. I had the vet out and the farrier at the same time and had the hoof cut away and put shoes on him. There is a product out that you can buy which is a soak. Like soaking a foot with epson salt. I don't remember the name of the product and I bought it at a farrier store. Wish I could remember the name. You should have your farrier look at the hoof and remove the shoes. Having shoes on may compound the problem. If it is white line it seems that the organism that causes the disease is anaerobic Meaning it will die in the presents of oxygen. Cutting away the hoof really helps because it is exposing the inner hoof to the air. Hope its not white line and I hope this helps some.
     
  4. MissBandit

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    WLD (or seedy toe) goes through various stages. If your farrier has pointed out that your horse has the beginnings of WLD, then you need to take it seriously. The only way to 'cure' WLD is to grow it out. You need to schedule more frequent trimmings, encourage healthy horn growth and keep the area free from muck as the seperation will allow for bacteria to enter the delicate laminae and cause all sorts of problems.

    I will attach a variety of different stages of WLD so you can appreciate how minute it can first appear. Any seperation of the white line needs to be take seriously as it can quickly progress without proper treatment.
    FYI, you are not looking for a 'white line'. The term white line disease does not indicate your horse develops a white line.
     
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    My horse Stormy had white line seperation. His hoof wall actually started pulling away from his sole! But since your horse doesn't have seperation, it probably isn't the same. I wish you the best of luck!! Hope everything works out for you!
     
  6. Paints4me

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    My mare had is very bad last year. I hadn't dealt with it a whole lot till last year (so many horses got it) but they reccomend taking off all the infected hoof wall till you get to healthy tissue. I know it sounds drastic!!! My mare had it in her Quarters on her fronts, I was leary of taking off all the seperated wall because there was such a large amount. I pulled her shoes so I could keep it cleaned out. I just took a nail and dug out all the seedy or black thrushy like substance in the white line area and used save-a-hoof gel twice a day. And kept her out of the muddy areas. Doing that and trimming a little more often (4 weeks) it was completly gone in a couple months.
     
  7. MissBandit

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    That's exactly what WLD is, it causes the hoof wall to separate. Depending on the severity, you may not see that immediately. It does have to start somewhere remember.
     
  8. Paints4me

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    When you dig out the infected material between the wall and sole (white line), it will most likely be up in there a ways... Theres your seperation.. It might not look like its seperated at first glance, but it will just look like its got some dirt up in between the sole and wall. It will dig out fairly easily, you will know when to stop because youll see the hard healthy line where it stops. Look it up on the internet. I went with a good friend the other day Hes a CJF I like to go with him as much as possible because I always seen to learn something... Anyhow one of the horses he was working on had a little pocket of white line forming in his front toe, well he started diging it out and found that it went up in there farther than we realized and so he took off about a 1 inch high and 1 inch wide section oif hoof wall right there on his toe to get to healthy tissue.. It looked pretty bad but the horse wasn't a bit sore.. he did have shoes on afterwards. The seperated wall is already dead, so yes it can be removed... Id get a good farrier to help you... ask your vet as well.. If you jump on it before it gets too bad you can stop it.
     
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  10. MissBandit

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    No, that hoof is a pic taken from this site: http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.equipodiatry.com/wld3a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.equipodiatry.com/wldupdt.htm&h=180&w=240&sz=8&tbnid=kI_WxHb0HE4J:&tbnh=78&tbnw=104&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dseedy%2Btoe%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff and is an example of advanced case of White Line Disease.

    All the pics I posted were taken off of various sites where they are listed as various stages of WLD or seedy toe. (which I now know the difference thanks to your above post)
     






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