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Featured Dead horse at Clinton Anderson from training???? Anyone know about this?

Discussion in 'Horse Training' started by meljean, Mar 27, 2013.

  1. Manahmanah

    Manahmanah Senior Member+

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    At the end of the blog he says plainly "this is my statement".

    Quoted for posterity in case he sobers up/calms down / realizes how much of an arrogant dbag he wounds like...

     
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  2. meljean

    meljean Senior Member

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    But he doesn't advocate laying into horses with whips...or anything that smacks of cruelty.

    And someone that did drop in one day, just because they lived in area, found a horse about ready to drop dead from being round penned excessively.

    Pretty telling that his is one of the names that comes up when people are talking about "better ways to work with horses" not involving forcing them into something. And then this is what is really going on?

    And if he thinks subject is done with?

    He is sadly underestimating how horse people are, I think.
     
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  3. Manahmanah

    Manahmanah Senior Member+

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    (Continued because my satanphone does stupid things when the posts get too long)

    Horrible handling of this situation by the ca camp. As a professional, you ensure there is a necropsy done. This is for everyone's benefit. The only way I would ever ever allow an owner to pass on a necropsy for a horse that died in my care was if I knew there was something negligent that happened to cause the death.

    Horses do die in training. Things happen. This is true. But walking over to find a horse dead and not investigating further is highly suspect. This whole "oh well, things happen" attitude is arrogant and disgusting.
     
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  4. KW Farms

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    If I sent a horse to a famous trainer, signed a contract to where the trainer isn't liable should my horse die in their care...and that horse ends up dying. The trainer doesn't have to offer me anything based on the contract, but a refund and on top of that the trainer offers and says here, take one of my well trained signature horses. To me, I don't really care what discipline or breed it was. If I could recoup some of my costs reselling the horse, personally, I would take it. Marketing a well trained horse from a famous trainer's "signature horse" program shouldn't be difficult. Just my opinion.
     
  5. angels3

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    Only thing that I can say about CA regarding this is that the statement was extremely immature but then again i'd probably say the same thing if I jumped through hoops for the owner and she still attempted to smear my reputation. She shelled out thousands for this horse in training and refused to get a necropsy but wants to go on FB and badmouth him? Nope not buying it one bit..
     
  6. meljean

    meljean Senior Member

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    Signature horse is worth 25,000.00? Who is he trying to kid?

    Please.
     
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  7. GotaDunQH

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    Wow....no need to go Rambo on me! The whole gimmicky "Signature" thing....is it supposed to mean the horse is special in some way? Call it what it is....a trained horse...period. Slap the word Signature on it....because it's Clinton Anderson....and all of a sudden the price tag goes up? I just have to laugh at all the little nifty marketing ploys by Clinton and the like.
     
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  8. GotaDunQH

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    In a lot of the NON-Clinton circles....that horse would be difficult to sell. You would have to sell it to one of his followers. I understand what you are saying, but the owner was not into western horses and wanted a taller horse! I guess to her...the price tag of a horse that CLINTON says is worth 25K (which is purely subjective coming from him)....was not worth what she lost. And who's to say the horse is well trained? Oh ya...Clinton does...LOL.
     
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  9. meljean

    meljean Senior Member

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    Isn't he the fool that has the new DVD set, (2 of them) on fixing a bolting horse? Well, wonder if being dead is how he fixes it?

    As for his signature horse? Whoopee.

    We turn out nice, soft, responsive horses at our barn, trainer can take pretty much a 25 dollar horse and do that easily...so does that make it worth 25,000???

    Let me call him and tell him that....

    I bet he could get 75, 000 for his, because his name is all over 'net as having shown and won over and over...as do his clients...so the sky is the limit.

    And I have known ASB trainers that make CA look like an idiot.

    Which I think he is, already did, but this statement? Takes the cake.
     
  10. nbd

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    I'm not ready to blame him for what happened, but his response is petulant and ridiculous. There are LOTS of good people who can help you if you're having problems with your horse. LOTS of good people who won't take all your money. LOTS of good people who can react to an accident and blowback like an adult.
     
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