Chickens planning a revolution..

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  1. OldGreyMare

    OldGreyMare Senior Member

    May 30, 2010
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    Nope the big farms like that are out for one If you want to be delusional that is your right.
  2. Blondehorse

    Blondehorse Senior Member

    Apr 20, 2006
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    I'm sure some do. But I know someone who has an organic layer house. I've never been in their chicken house to speak to the conditions inside. The birds may have a fairly decent life, I don't know, but what I do know is that they have a horrible death. When the hens are finished with their productive life, they are caught and stuffed into cages, jammed in on top of each other with broken legs and wings, with blood running out of the cages. I don't know where they are taken or how far they have to go to get there, but it doesn't matter--those birds suffer horribly before they die. These are organic eggs, probably labeled 'free-range' because they have a pasture they can go out in, and the people who buy those eggs in the store probably have a much different picture in their minds of how the birds live and are treated.
    It's disgusting, plain and simple.
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  3. cschattner

    cschattner Senior Member

    Dec 26, 2009
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    Well thats worth a try. Worse that can happen is me going insane trying to peel them.
    I have a slow cooker which I love but I have never used an instapot.
  4. hamerface

    hamerface Senior Member

    Jun 30, 2009
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    There's a big difference. A production hen is that, production, a commodity who has to meet quota. Big producers don't have time to doctor birds one on one. Those birds stress in high numbers, and they're burnt out by 2.

    Have you ever been in a massive chicken barn? Smelled one? The quality of life isn't anywhere near the same.

    I think it's about ethics more than trust.

    yep circles back to ethics and humane treatment.

    My old girls aren't crammed into crates and shipped to Campbell's. They're killed humanely and eaten or made into cat food.

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  5. ginster

    ginster Senior Member

    Feb 19, 2012
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    Eh. I take great care to check where the eggs I buy come from. I am not sure how common factory farming is in the US/Canada but over here in Europe where room is scarce it is sadly very common. And no one can tell me that somebody who keeps their animals in these deplorable conditions cares for them the same as a hobby farmer with ten or twenty chicken does.
  6. tlwidener

    tlwidener Senior Member

    Dec 26, 2008
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    Big farms are only out for money? Huh. Okay.

    Falling commodity prices suggest otherwise.

    Farming is rarely about money. It is a way of life. A life that most farmers love: big farmers and small farmers.

    How arrogant of you to assume that you care more... or are more ethical or more humane.

    I'm not a chicken farmer. I'm a wheat farmer, but I am an Ag-vocate.
  7. CJ

    CJ Senior Member

    Mar 20, 2004
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    I had a homeraised guinea who was friendly and adorable the way he would follow us around. He was once of the few with an actual name, called "Rover". But as the older guineas slowly died off, one day he realized he was now the rooster on the place, and he turned into a lil ****. He would literally wait until your back was turned, like when I stuffed haynets, suddenly get a calf attacked with beak and talons. OW :mad::bawling: :flaming: . He was so into it I could grab him, and give him a toss, first away, but hed come back. The horses drank out of a shallow premade fish pond, and I started heaving the lil twerp into there; no harm, he could climb out the plant shelves easily. Let me tell you, wet hens have nothing on a wet rooster. Sometimes hed shake off, sometimes hed go right back on the attack. I do not know what was going off in that lil pea brain of his.
    He ended up being one of the casualties that got out in the road,which had more than its share of speeding twits some days. I wanted him to stop blindsiding me, but I didnt want him dead to do it. :(
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  8. Faster Horses

    Faster Horses Senior Member

    Aug 24, 2011
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    I've got lots to contribute (and YES, I am in the egg industry, so I have first hand knowledge)

    Just need time to get to a computer instead of my phone. lol
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  9. mooselady

    mooselady Senior Member

    Sep 9, 2012
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  10. OldGreyMare

    OldGreyMare Senior Member

    May 30, 2010
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    ltwidener..I come from an agriculturally rich valley in Nevada, I know all about farming, I grew up in that life. My own family having been dairy farmers for many, many years in Massachusetts, they now raise hay crops. I would rather give to a small mom and pop farm who you can go see, touch, talk to and ask questions about their stock. I know where all my food comes from and while we may pay a bit higher price for it, I know who raises it, how it is butchered, where, and what that animal is fed from birth to death.Not a whole lot of people can say that, as we care how our animals are raised and handled.

    Just because I don't believe in all the hype some say about "large farming" doesn't mean I am not for the farmer.

    Arrogant of me? I know that this is a more "PETA" crap article but it does happen, I would love for others to show that this is not right...other articles under this are from other sites as well.

    Industry Facts About Chickens Raised for Meat
    1. 51.4 billion chickens are artificially hatched, fattened up and slaughtered as 42-day-old babies every year globally. A chicken’s normal lifespan is 10–15 years. (1)

    2. Chickens and turkeys together represent 99% of land animals slaughtered for food in the United States. (2)

    3. Chickens bred for meat are arguably the most genetically manipulated of all animals, forced to grow 65 times faster than their bodies normally would, and the industry continually seeks to increase their growth rate. (3)

    4. Chickens are housed in giant, overcrowded sheds, where they are packed in by the thousands and forced to stand and sit on filthy, manure-laden flooring, which is typically cleaned out only every 2 to 4 years. “Free range” is a meaningless term in this sense, since almost all chickens raised for meat are uncaged.

    5. Heart failure afflicts chickens at a rate of at least 4.7% and is attributed to genetic manipulation, but this figure only covers birds within their first 42 days of life. (4) The rate of heart failure increases in the weeks to come. Two of Free from Harm’s rescues died of heart failure in their first 3 to 4 months of life. Their baby hearts cannot keep up with their adult-sized bodies.

    Lame chicken in intense pain. Photo by Animal Liberation NSW from their undercover investigation at a Red Lea Broiler Farm in NSW in October 2012.
    6. Every year globally, at least 12.5 billion chickens experience painful leg problems, including lameness, due to their breeding for rapid growth. (5)

    7. “Ammonia burn” and respiratory diseases and fatalities are also common from exposure to high concentrations of ammonia emanating from large accumulations of feces. (6)

    8. After six weeks, chickens are cornered by “catchers” who often come in the dark and in the middle of the night, grabbing terrified chickens by their feet and roughly stuffing them into crates which are loaded onto transport trucks with forklifts. In the process they suffer from broken legs and wings, lacerations, hemorrhage, dehydration, heat stroke, hypothermia, and heart failure. Millions die before even reaching the slaughterhouse.

    Chicken-catching machines vacuum up chickens and blow them through to a conveyor belt or directly into cages as shown here.
    9. Chicken-catching machines resembling giant street sweepers were introduced in the 1990s. These 6-ton machines vacuum up 7,000 birds an hour with rubber finger-like projections that place them on a conveyer belt and force them into crates. (7)

    Chickens in crates on their way to slaughter. Photo: Anita Krajnic, taken at a Toronto Chicken Save vigil.
    10. Jammed inside these crates, chickens may travel up to 12 hours to the slaughterhouse through extreme temperatures and weather conditions without food or water. Upon arrival, chickens may languish in these crates for an additional 12 hours before being unloaded. (8)

    11. Chickens too sick or injured to enter the food supply are dumped into large mass graves alive, as exposed in this video footage from an undercover investigation at a poultry farm, conducted by one of the leading farmed animal advocacy organizations, Compassion Over Killing. (9)

    12. At the slaughterhouse, chickens are not stunned, but shackled and dragged upside down, fully conscious, through electrified water that paralyzes their muscles so that their feathers will come off more easily after they are dead.

    13. Millions of chickens and turkeys are scalded alive after their throats are cut. Former slaughterhouse worker Virgil Butler reports that in the scald tank, “the chickens scream, kick, and their eyeballs pop out of their heads.”

    14. So-called “humane” slaughter alternatives include the “kill cone,” decompression, and gas chambers. The kill cone is the most barbaric and cruel form of killing imaginable; chickens are stuffed head first down a long funnel. Their heads are pulled through a small opening, and their necks are slashed as they thrash and scream in agony and blood flows out of their mouths.

    [​IMG]15. Chickens and turkeys go to slaughter lame, sick, and in pain. They are infected with Salmonella, Campylobacter, E coli, and other bacteria that make people sick with foodborne poisons. Since poultry products are the main source of foodborne illness in people, due to the filthy conditions in which they are raised, slaughtered chickens are soaked in toxic chemicals which are consumed along with their flesh.

    16. In less than 60 years, the number of broiler chickens raised yearly has skyrocketed 1,400%, from 580 million in the 1950s to nearly 9 billion today. (10) Even with such an immense increase in their exploitation, chickens bred for their flesh still have virtually no rights or laws to protect them.

    17. Chickens can now be killed at a rate of 140 chickens per minute (up from 130), and slaughter plants can police themselves even more, making them more efficient killing machines with less government interference than ever. (11)

    Edith, a sweet, innocent baby we rescued, who fell off a transport truck on her way to the slaughterhouse.
    Now that you have the basics on how chickens are routinely used and abused in agriculture, check out what they are really like in their natural environment. What we’ve learned about the chicken brain and behavior in just the last 10 to 15 years is truly remarkable and explodes the “bird brain” stereotypes that have been so pervasive for far too long. See our comprehensive report, Chicken Behavior: An Overview of Recent Science.

    Meet the one big ag company no longer playing chicken with antibiotics

    10 Alarming Facts About Factory Farms That Will Break Your Heart

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