Canter lead issues

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  1. DocsLglyBlonde

    DocsLglyBlonde Senior Member

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    If it is an issue that has suddenly popped up, even with a history of it, and nothing physically has happened to you to change your riding abities, PLUS she's doing the same with other riders, I'd especially bet it's physical. It could be something as simple as weak around the stifles or something similar, but it could certainly be something more. Usually if your gut is telling you it's not her just being lazy or a training issue, you're correct. Ask me how I know :rolleyez:
     
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  2. bellalou

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    You need a new trainer.

    Horses like to take the easy way, not the hard way. If this horse is the type of horse that won't buck because it's too much effort, and "literally likes to do the bare minimum needed for the job," it makes no sense that she'd rather get pushed into a wrong lead canter 14 times than pick it up the first or second and be done with it.

    That's not a lazy horse or a behavioral problem. It's a horse that CAN'T DO IT. Or at least can't do it without it being painful or uncomfortable for her in some way.

    You need to investigate and address her issues. Get your saddle fit checked. Even if it was done fairly recently, it can change. I just discovered my saddle fit changed unexpectedly. It happens.

    Get the vet to do a full check. Get body work. Find the problem. There is a problem.

    It may simply be weakness on that side but it sounds more like something is bothering her. Track it down. She needs to trust you to do the right thing by her.
     
  3. clja

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    Saddle fit was done two weeks ago it was correct. Vet comes next week and we will go from there. She is just very stiff and not willing to bend tracking left. I hope X-rays will help find a diagnosis and it can be fixed. Like I said tracking left has been an issue the whole time but we did do good with this lead the last few months so it’s frustrating and everything I read online about stifles and Hock and even SI pain only talks about crossfiring at the canter but not this issue
     
  4. Rhythm 'n Blues

    Rhythm 'n Blues Senior Member

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    Had a mare who was so out in the SI that she was tearing and bucking AT A WALK! Literally could not take 5 steps in any direction, not even if someone was leading her.

    So trust me, SI issues can range from refusing to bend, to cross firing to simply refusing to let anyone ride them.
     
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  5. Garfield70

    Garfield70 Senior Member

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    So what does a training session with that horse look like? What do you do with her? Because there are plenty of things you can do to train the bad side of a horse besides cantering that will improve the cantering.

    Does she bend correctly at the walk and trot? And how do you bend her?

    Best would be you upload a video of you riding her.
     
  6. slc

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    Take it easy, you're catastrophizing. The vet needs to get a look at her. And then, yes, things like this get fixed. All the time. The correct instruction is the key.
     
  7. clja

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    No she doesn’t bend correctly at the walk or trot going that direction. It’s not just us it’s the same when anyone rides her. Different trainers different riders etc. and she has always been that way but this lead thing has just reared it’s head again after many months. She does have a “unique” way of going at the trot that several folks comment on but she’s always been cleared as sound and it never affects her placings at rated shows. She bends her Hocks more than most horses at the trot lifting her hind feet off the ground more than she needs to, instead of the typical swinging motion. It doesn’t match the action of the front. Almost like mild stringhalt but it’s not because she doesn’t do it at the walk or any other time only at the trot. She still tracks up normally and no short striding at all.
     
  8. Garfield70

    Garfield70 Senior Member

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    A spinal problem in her neck maybe? Or something neurological? This sounds totally health related. But not all orthopedic problems cause the horse to have pain or lameness.

    Please upload a video, we can say absolutely nothing without seeing the problem.
     
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    Do you have a video of that trot? I'm curious to see it.
     
  10. clja

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    update (sort of): vet came and we did a nauseating amount of xrays ($$$$$), hocks, stifles, fetlocks plus ultrasound of SI/hip/pelvis/SI. Nothing stood out. Stifles were perfect, hocks looked good she did not one small area on right hock were the joint space was narrower that the others, could def be causing pain but wasn't really convinced it would cause the issues we are seeing. Neuro exam was fine, no concerned with neck issues. Flexions were all negative. She commented that she'd like to xray the front coffins and I agreed bc why not when my bill is already insane. The horse has zero lameness on the front, no head bob, no ouchy steps, NOTHING. xrays pop up and she is alarmed at how thin the soles are and the inflammation of the coffin bones. No rotation was seen but the soles measured 5mm on the right and less than 4mm on the left. She recommended getting her in shoes immediately. So I don't really know that we have our answers and the thin soles may just be an incidental finding and maybe that right hock area is causing our left direction problems but I'm not super hopeful that it is. Frustrating for sure.
     

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