Breaking a donkey to ride, and drive.

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  1. Wranglerass

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    Okay, my #1 question is, should i work on them both at the same time? I mean, should i break her to ride, wait, then break her to drive (or vise-versa)?

    #2. I dont' have a bit or a bridle to fit her, and I can only find large horse bits. My grandparents have a pony curve bit that may fit her, I'll hopefully get that from them sometime soon, then get a couple holes punched in an old bridle to make it fit her. I haven't seen the bit, and I don't know how severe it is. I am VERY GREEN at this, like, i'm at the tip of the iceberg in learning about horses and donkeys, and i'm doing all my reading from books from a friend of my mom's. But I've only used a snaffle bit before. What's different about using a curve bit? Or is it just the way it is in the mouth. And I might as well ask, what judges what type of bit a horse (or donkey) will need?

    okay... well, otherwise, i'm really unsure what i need to ask.

    I probably should go buy a proper crop to use on her, I usually just find a stick in the pasture or break something off the Caragana trees surrounding the pasture. This is probably also a dumb question, but i'll only know if i ask... so should a crop snap when you use it, or should it just be a hit. -- and yes, i need to use a crop for my stubborn, lazy little donkey, when i ask her to do more than walk she bucks and i only use it severly then. otherwise, i just tap her with it to get her to go.

    anyways, if anyone has any advice to offer me, or can answer my questions, the help would definately be appreciated.
     






  2. Jumpers

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    Have you tried State Line Tack for an appropriate bit? If you do some searching online you'll find pony bits. Our local tack store carries 4 inch snaffles. Do you have a local tack shop?

    Don't use a whip unless you absolutely need it. We used to board at a barn with donkeys that were trained to drive. They are highly intelligent and you have to take things slow with them. Don't push, don't whip, don't yell, etc. You tick them off and it's all over. They're very different than a horse.

    Just like a horse, start with your ground basics first. Bit pressure, pressure on the sides means step over, pressure on the chest in conjuction with rein pressure means back up, etc. I would personally teach ground driving first before riding. Much of what you will teach with driving will carry over to the saddle.
     
  3. drafts

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    Breaking to drive first is the way to go. Once they are broken to drive, they take to saddle nicely. I would not even worry about either until you have the appropriate equipment.
     
  4. Wranglerass

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    At every tack shop I've been at I've looked and there's only 5 inch bits and bigger. My main problem is that I don't have a bit, and my mom doesn't want to buy one :S. But if nothing else, i know a man who has a miniature farm... well, a farm with many miniature horses and donkeys and goats.. etc. he might have a spare bit i could borrow or buy. we'll see.

    A whip is almost necessary if you want them to go any faster than a slow walk, but i just tap. And when she bucks i'll be more sever. She's a good and quiet little donkey, and she's accepted that I'm in control. (It's her baby that I'm having the trouble with)

    Starting with riding has just been so much simpler because i don't have to hook her up to anything and I can just be out in the pasture visiting them and just decide, why not now i'll give it a shot? I don't work with her long, probably 10 minutes at a time i'll be on her back..
     
  5. drafts

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    You don't have to hook to anything to drive. You can ground drive.

    I am usually the bearer of bad news, so hear goes. I think, by your posts, that you have alot to learn. It is very hard to train a horse when the trainer really has no clue. You really should not be using ill fitting or improper equipment on that a donkey. I think youa re setting yourself up for disaster.
     
  6. Wranglerass

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    Yeah, I know myself that I am nearly clueless... but the only way I am going to learn is to give it a try, its like needling an animal, or tubefeeding a calf, just get instruction and go from that. I have now got a bit and a bridle from my grandparents that will fit her and i'm going to start working with that soon... to read here and to talk to my other friend who knows tons about horses, between the two of us and my parents and other friends, i'm sure we can get her going, it'll just take time. And if nothing else, she's basically just a brood mare and a sheep protector, that's all we've ever expected from her, so.

    But basically, i will definately agree with you that i have alot to learn. i just started actually working with and learning about horses last winter while helping train my horse (actually, the friend i got to train her rode her like 3 times and the rest was me, and she's very critical and has showed me a lot)But I am reading and reading and reading and talking to people, gathering all this information in my head, and i know for sure that i've learned a lot. So this is just another experience, and i'll soon find out what works and what doesn't.
     
  7. Blistering Winds

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    Ummmm...your idea of learning is SLIGHTLY flawed. Sorry to sound mean.

    Sticking with a needle WONT ruin an animal... WRong training an animal will ruin and even land an animal at the SLAUGHTERS for it because animals can rebel and seriously hurt you if you go about everything wrong.

    If you had someone there to walk you through everything and show you how, makes it much easier. If you had SOME base knowledge, then yes, a verbal "clue" on training would help. But from your description, you don't have that base knowledge for training.

    I'm sorry, but I can't help you on this. Donkeys and mules and Mustangs, as a general rule, YOU DON"T SCREW WITH THEM. Once ruined, ALWAYS ruined. They are SOOOO Much smarter and in my opinion, hold GRUDGES so much more than horses do. And if you ruin their training the first time around, even OOPS yourself and teach them wrong, then fixing them is 10 times harder!!! Horses you can go back over, but mules and donkeys, and even mustangs for some odd reason are susceptible to training and will take to it FAST, but are VERY Stubborn and will be set in THAT way forever!!!!! Like reasoning with a wall once you screw them up. Not worth it half the time unless you plan on working with them FOREVER to fix One little thing.

    Serious. If you want to do this, then find a trainer who will work with BOTH you and the donkey!! It will save both of your lives and make both of you happier for it.
     
  8. zorse

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    Good luck with your donkey..lol. It's good that you're trying to learn as much as you can, however you should try to seek some professional help with breaking your donkey.

    Also, teaching him to drive first is more logical. When we break our horses, we always ground-drive them first.
     

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