Acti-flex Senior

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  1. quarian

    quarian Full Member

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    Hi all

    I wondered if anyone used Acti-flex or Acti-flex senior without adding extra msm with good results.

    I volunteer with the local RDA. We're in Singapore, a very urbanised country. There are only 2 riding clubs in the whole country so you can guess supplements are rather expensive and I've decided to buy them from overseas myself for our oldest pony, Chester.

    Just got the first batch of Majesty's Flex Wafers today but have continued to read up and seen good reports of Acti-flex Senior so thought I would get that when the Majesty's runs out. Chester is about 32 and the oldest in Singapore so he definitely ranks as senior. He's gotten increasingly stiff and also bony around the hips and back. I figure the probiotics could help more.

    He's currently fed hay, chaff and sugar beet. He either gets no hard feed or a handful of a meusli-mix called Havens (http://www.horsefeed.nl/page3.html) as that's what all our horses get. Salt, electrolytes and vegetable oil. So I figure he gets very little balanced vits and minerals in his feed and the extras in Acti-flex senior might come in handy.

    He is still used for light sessions 3 or 4 times a week with little kids and has a healthy appetite. He has a reputation for being a grumpy old man but he and I are best mates and he's great with the disabled kids.

    Anyway, my reason for wanting to go without extra msm if it's still effective is it took a long time to convince our barn manager that we should get supplements for Chester. I'm sponsoring them for now and I just don't want to rock the boat to tell the manager that "er I think this product is good but it's short of something so let's supplement the supplement.."

    Next qn :) he's about 750lbs, would that be 2/3 or 3/4 scoop/oz per day rather than 1oz which I read is for a horse weighing 1100lbs?

    Is there a loading period and dose?

    So let me know all you Acti-flex users/joint experts out there! Thanks.
     






  2. Dawn

    Dawn Senior Member+

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    I've used it and loved it. Having said that, I also added extra MSM to it. But it still contains more of everything than many other combo supplements do just on its own. MSM is very inexpensive and can be quite effective, and that's probably one big reason you see many people adding onto it. A 1/2 dose of MSM on top of the Actiflex is all that would be called for.

    As far as the dosing, you should contact Acti-flex directly and get their opinion on it. My guess is that he should still have the full dose. They might differ in their opinion. I do think there is an initial loading dose of 2x the regular dose, but I can't say for sure.
     
  3. quarian

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    Thanks Dawn, actually I noticed elsewhere you saying "you used it" also but that sounds like you stopped? Can I ask why?
     
  4. lacy

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    I use the Acti-Flex 4000 http://www.bigdweb.com/detail.aspx?id=18448# with my son's 28 year old pony and am very impresses with the results.

    I was giving him just powdered Glucosimine which was helping his pain and movement a little bit, but you could tell that he was still stiff.

    I started the Acti-Flex 4000 and he soon became more energetic and peppy. I even lunge him over jumps now and he is fine with them. I get compliments all the time on him and no one believes that he is 28 years old.

    But, he also has tender and flatfeet. For that, I am giving him Super BioZin pellets which, with backwards shoes, I feel has made him a completely different horse.
     
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    I sold the horse it was being used on ;)

    If/when I need another joint supplement, I will be using Acti-flex Senior.
     
  6. quarian

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    Lacy: You mentioned your son's pony. Are you using the full oz for a pony or did you scale back to less daily? I was thinking if ponies get a smaller dose it would make the product go a longer way.

    Also, does anyone know if it's safe to use on horses with laminitis? We have an old 15.2hh horse, joints creak and pop very loudly. He had seedy toe and has always had bad hooves since he came to us when he was about 18. He's now more like 25. Just last week the barn manager told me he just got laminitis and they're working on it with strict diet control and the farrier. Also a very stiff guy, a retired polo pony. We have a lot of geriatrics :p.
     
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    It's debateable whether or not glucosamine is appropriate for laminitic horses (or metabolic horses). Many people use it on them. Many people feel it's best not to.
     
  8. lacy

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    Not really sure about the laminitis horse, Dawn is pretty knowledgeable about horse health and will always be back for more suggestions/input.

    Yes, I still use the 1oz.I started out with the 2 oz like the bottle suggested. My feed store is very informative and will call the company its self or the owner of the feed store if I have any questions. When I was talking to the owner about what to do with the pony, I was looking at the Acti-Flex and they called the company directly for me to ask about amounts.

    My best advice would be to call the maker of the supplements if you have any questions about how much to feed. They will know and then you can be sure you are doing the right thing :)
     
  9. quarian

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    I've written to the manufacturer to ask about dosage and loading, will update you all when I hear from them. Thanks all, love the discussion as you always learn something new. I'm a bit obsessive so I love comparing labels and ingredients..grocery shopping is my favourite shopping :wink:
     
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    I use it on my 29 year old. I also add more MSM. He responded right away.

    For the laminitic pony you might try microlcatin powder from supplementdirect. I give my pony 2 tsp. daily and she has become a new pony!
     






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